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If anyone has heard of this guy he is a deciever just like the Dejal will be. I listened to him on the ABC radio and then went into his site. We must be getting close to the end times if they have made this guy a spokeman for US- middle east relations.
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 07:30 PM
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Pipes? Not just one of the most vocal enemies of the Muslim world, but the influential HATEmongering (pseudo) academic WARmonger par excellence
And talk about diseceting Muslim into pieces
This is one of his latest "well-researched” diatribe ... soooo funny, Pipes (moronic)style ... thanks to Mr Pipes, we finally get to know the real faces of moderate Islam 
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Posted 09 December 2004 - 09:32 PM
Musa, on Dec 9 2004, 06:14 PM, said:
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If anyone has heard of this guy he is a deciever just like the Dejal will be. I listened to him on the ABC radio and then went into his site. We must be getting close to the end times if they have made this guy a spokeman for US- middle east relations.
If anyone has heard of this guy he is a deciever just like the Dejal will be. I listened to him on the ABC radio and then went into his site. We must be getting close to the end times if they have made this guy a spokeman for US- middle east relations.
Mr Pipes was one of the major voices preventing Professor Tariq Ramadan into the U.S. Hence the real fear that anti-Muslim activists hold is not from those who give dazzling lectures inspiring a few here and there but those who create a model of how the western world can adopt, embrace and utilize the teachings of Islam to add value to their own social structure. Innovating a new methodology and process of interaction generated by Professor Ramadan has taken Europe/England by storm. If you actually read the following article you can see the real concerns and the desperate means of preventing the true teachings of the Islamic Faith to be spread.
'Clutching at straws, pure desperation.' It is ironic, rather it is strange to discuss the grandfather (Hasan Al Banna) of the professor and try to convict, allegedly, the actions of his grandfather in a way that suggests Prof Ramadan is responsible for those actions. The arguments put forth by Mr Pipes implies we should trace the ancestral line of every living person and depending on the actions of the ancestors, judge that individual eternally on it. If this is the new policy to be implemented then I would not like to be the descendant of the crusaders nor of those who participated in the inquisitions.
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Good Muslim, Bad Muslim: America, the Cold War, and the Roots of Terror
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In post–9/11 America, Culture Talk has come to focus on Islam and Muslims who made culture only at the beginning of creation, as some extraordinary, prophetic act. After that, it seems Muslims just conformed to culture. According to some, our culture seems to have no history, no politics, and no debates, so that all Muslims are just plain bad. According to others, there is a history, a politics, even debates, and there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. In both versions, history seems to have petrified into a lifeless custom of an antique people who inhabit antique lands. Or could it be that culture here stands for habit, for some kind of instinctive activity with rules that are inscribed in early founding texts, usually religious, and mummified in early artifacts?
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In post–9/11 America, Culture Talk has come to focus on Islam and Muslims who made culture only at the beginning of creation, as some extraordinary, prophetic act. After that, it seems Muslims just conformed to culture. According to some, our culture seems to have no history, no politics, and no debates, so that all Muslims are just plain bad. According to others, there is a history, a politics, even debates, and there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. In both versions, history seems to have petrified into a lifeless custom of an antique people who inhabit antique lands. Or could it be that culture here stands for habit, for some kind of instinctive activity with rules that are inscribed in early founding texts, usually religious, and mummified in early artifacts?
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Posted 10 February 2005 - 01:21 AM
This is not the way to tackle anti-Semitism
Tuesday 8th Feb 2005, The Age.
Anti-Muslim rhetoric from the likes of Daniel Pipes is unhelpful, writes Maher Mughrabi.
Daniel Pipes is a rhetorical bomb-maker, and last weekend he struck in Melbourne. Combining his audience's horrific memories of the Holocaust with present fears of Iranian weapons programs, he stood back and waited for a publicity explosion.
At Monash University's conference on anti-Semitism, the American academic and commentator warned that preparations were under way for a "second Holocaust". The Muslim world had Israel in its sights, and to prove it Pipes picked a 2001 remark by a former Iranian president. But it is worth providing the former president's quote in full:
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in its possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave anything in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world."
Does this sound like a man threatening a second Holocaust, or one pointing out the obvious, which is that Muslim acquisition of nuclear weapons would change the strategic balance in the region? Is "stalemate" really another word for "mass murder"?
Anti-Semitism is a serious and enduring problem, which must be tackled through education and exchange at every level of society. It may be that Pipes has something to teach us about its range and character today. But I wonder about placing him front and centre at an anti-Semitism conference, for a number of reasons.
That he still commands audiences might surprise those who remember that in 1987 he urged the United States to supply Saddam Hussein with better weapons and intelligence, on the basis that the Baathist leadership was an important force for moderation and US security in the region. That Saddam was the aggressor did not seem to matter; what was important was that Iran should be utterly defeated.
Pipes' stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict also hinges on the need for a complete military defeat of one side. Believing that "what war had achieved for Israel, diplomacy has undone", he has long opposed a two-state solution of the kind proposed by George Bush and the international community and to which even Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon now pays lip service.
"To think that two states can stably and peacefully coexist in the small territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is to be either naive or duplicitous," Pipes has written. How, in its hour of victory, the Israel envisioned by Pipes might accommodate as equal citizens the millions of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and yet maintain its Zionist character is not clear.
Most worrying of all was his recent article on kidnappings in Iraq, which was published on this page under the headline "Hit me and I will hit back" (September 15, 2004). In it Pipes contrasted reactions in France and Nepal to the abduction of their citizens, lamenting the French Government's use of diplomatic channels as appeasement and pointing to riots in Kathmandu that targeted innocent Nepalese Muslims as showing "an instinct for self-preservation - hit me and I will hit you back . . . (which) made a repetition of atrocities against themselves less likely".
A number of points might be made here, but surely the most important is that the Nepalese rioters did not "hit you back", unless the "you" in question was not the kidnappers in particular but Muslims in general. Indeed, someone who is familiar with the history of anti-Semitic violence should recognise the Kathmandu riots for what they were: a pogrom, in which people were targeted on the basis of shared faith rather than shared culpability.
We live in an era when alarm at the genuine threat of Islamist terror is allowing some states to waive the civil rights of their Muslim citizens. In this atmosphere, one might expect a scholar of anti-Semitism to insist that the principles of innocence and guilt deserve especial attention when it comes to Muslims.
Instead, Pipes has said that "all Muslims, unfortunately, are suspect" and has advocated monitoring of American Muslims on the basis that "if searching for rapists, one looks only at the male population . . . if searching for Islamists, one looks at the Muslim population". Yet in America, I am not aware of a program requiring men to register their whereabouts on the basis that they are all rape suspects.
Pipes has also gone on Australian television to express the view that "easily half" of the world's Muslims believed the terrorist atrocities of September 11, 2001, were "a great thing". To stigmatise more than half a billion people in this way is surely not the act of someone who has studied the way in which anti-Semites of the 1920s and '30s stigmatised East European Jews as carriers of Bolshevism. And when Pipes notes that "all immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most", one wonders if he recalls that less than a century ago an American newspaper could argue that "the innate racial characteristics of Jews so conflict with Christian customs and prejudices that happy marriages are impossible".
As someone who has always rejected anti-Semitism in its myriad guises, and who knows and respects several people who spoke at the Monash conference, I fear that the choice of Daniel Pipes as a keynote speaker was misguided, unless we would simply replace one repellent brand of faith-based stigmatisation and violence with another.
Maher Mughrabi is an Age journalist.
http://www.theage.co...l?oneclick=true
Tuesday 8th Feb 2005, The Age.
Anti-Muslim rhetoric from the likes of Daniel Pipes is unhelpful, writes Maher Mughrabi.
Daniel Pipes is a rhetorical bomb-maker, and last weekend he struck in Melbourne. Combining his audience's horrific memories of the Holocaust with present fears of Iranian weapons programs, he stood back and waited for a publicity explosion.
At Monash University's conference on anti-Semitism, the American academic and commentator warned that preparations were under way for a "second Holocaust". The Muslim world had Israel in its sights, and to prove it Pipes picked a 2001 remark by a former Iranian president. But it is worth providing the former president's quote in full:
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in its possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave anything in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world."
Does this sound like a man threatening a second Holocaust, or one pointing out the obvious, which is that Muslim acquisition of nuclear weapons would change the strategic balance in the region? Is "stalemate" really another word for "mass murder"?
Anti-Semitism is a serious and enduring problem, which must be tackled through education and exchange at every level of society. It may be that Pipes has something to teach us about its range and character today. But I wonder about placing him front and centre at an anti-Semitism conference, for a number of reasons.
That he still commands audiences might surprise those who remember that in 1987 he urged the United States to supply Saddam Hussein with better weapons and intelligence, on the basis that the Baathist leadership was an important force for moderation and US security in the region. That Saddam was the aggressor did not seem to matter; what was important was that Iran should be utterly defeated.
Pipes' stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict also hinges on the need for a complete military defeat of one side. Believing that "what war had achieved for Israel, diplomacy has undone", he has long opposed a two-state solution of the kind proposed by George Bush and the international community and to which even Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon now pays lip service.
"To think that two states can stably and peacefully coexist in the small territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is to be either naive or duplicitous," Pipes has written. How, in its hour of victory, the Israel envisioned by Pipes might accommodate as equal citizens the millions of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and yet maintain its Zionist character is not clear.
Most worrying of all was his recent article on kidnappings in Iraq, which was published on this page under the headline "Hit me and I will hit back" (September 15, 2004). In it Pipes contrasted reactions in France and Nepal to the abduction of their citizens, lamenting the French Government's use of diplomatic channels as appeasement and pointing to riots in Kathmandu that targeted innocent Nepalese Muslims as showing "an instinct for self-preservation - hit me and I will hit you back . . . (which) made a repetition of atrocities against themselves less likely".
A number of points might be made here, but surely the most important is that the Nepalese rioters did not "hit you back", unless the "you" in question was not the kidnappers in particular but Muslims in general. Indeed, someone who is familiar with the history of anti-Semitic violence should recognise the Kathmandu riots for what they were: a pogrom, in which people were targeted on the basis of shared faith rather than shared culpability.
We live in an era when alarm at the genuine threat of Islamist terror is allowing some states to waive the civil rights of their Muslim citizens. In this atmosphere, one might expect a scholar of anti-Semitism to insist that the principles of innocence and guilt deserve especial attention when it comes to Muslims.
Instead, Pipes has said that "all Muslims, unfortunately, are suspect" and has advocated monitoring of American Muslims on the basis that "if searching for rapists, one looks only at the male population . . . if searching for Islamists, one looks at the Muslim population". Yet in America, I am not aware of a program requiring men to register their whereabouts on the basis that they are all rape suspects.
Pipes has also gone on Australian television to express the view that "easily half" of the world's Muslims believed the terrorist atrocities of September 11, 2001, were "a great thing". To stigmatise more than half a billion people in this way is surely not the act of someone who has studied the way in which anti-Semites of the 1920s and '30s stigmatised East European Jews as carriers of Bolshevism. And when Pipes notes that "all immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most", one wonders if he recalls that less than a century ago an American newspaper could argue that "the innate racial characteristics of Jews so conflict with Christian customs and prejudices that happy marriages are impossible".
As someone who has always rejected anti-Semitism in its myriad guises, and who knows and respects several people who spoke at the Monash conference, I fear that the choice of Daniel Pipes as a keynote speaker was misguided, unless we would simply replace one repellent brand of faith-based stigmatisation and violence with another.
Maher Mughrabi is an Age journalist.
http://www.theage.co...l?oneclick=true
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Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:47 AM
assalamu alaykum.
daniel pipes is evil. but he is articulating arguments that many are using. so sadly, some poor bugger in the muslim world has to put his hand up and refute pipes. who is willing to do it?
is there anyone out there with a PhD and some corporate funding who can apply their mind and pen to this? and employ a research team to help them?
could muslim leadership groups fund it? could groups like SALIC and MCCA and AFIC and others fund it?
because believe me, if daniel pipes' popularity continues to grow, i think we will all have to start moving to new zealand.
ma salama
daniel pipes is evil. but he is articulating arguments that many are using. so sadly, some poor bugger in the muslim world has to put his hand up and refute pipes. who is willing to do it?
is there anyone out there with a PhD and some corporate funding who can apply their mind and pen to this? and employ a research team to help them?
could muslim leadership groups fund it? could groups like SALIC and MCCA and AFIC and others fund it?
because believe me, if daniel pipes' popularity continues to grow, i think we will all have to start moving to new zealand.
ma salama
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Is folded and hung up to dry
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Posted 10 February 2005 - 11:38 PM
Pipes is an American.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 03:38 AM
he's also jewish, not to be racist but yeh :\ is it any suprise that someone so viurlently islamophobic (god i hate that word) and blantantly zionist is also a jew? *Shrug*
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 07:22 PM
pipes may be american, but those who host and design his website are israeli. and some of these groups make hamas look like the salvation army.
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Posted 11 February 2005 - 08:20 PM
is that none other than Dr. Maher Maghrabi?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 02:01 AM
no. the MM in the article is a australian palestinian journalist based in melbourne.
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lailahaillallah, on Feb 11 2005, 03:38 AM, said:
he's also jewish, not to be racist but yeh :\ is it any suprise that someone so viurlently islamophobic (god i hate that word) and blantantly zionist is also a jew? *Shrug*
I agree i hate the word Islamophobic too. What I did...... I stopped using it. I now refer to such people as Anti-Islamic.
I made this decision after reading a keynote address by the Professor of Islamic Studies at George Washington University, Seyyed Hossein (thanks to sheikh Google).
In short, he made a point that to name such action and sentiment Islamophobia, is to water the situation down. You do not refer to people as suffering from Semetiphobia when they persecute a jew.
This is just my opinion.......
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 01:42 PM
Daniel Pipes- to some he is a hero, but to other intelligent people who are able identify the limited scope of his articles (eg: "Why Jerusalem means more to Jews than Muslims" ), he is just another dude who knows how to use his words so as to 'appear' intelligent. Good use of words though
), he is just another dude who knows how to use his words so as to 'appear' intelligent. Good use of words though
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"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
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The Middle East Forum (MEF), a Philadelphia-based policy institute founded by Daniel Pipes, is one of a number of hardline neoconservative think tanks devoted to promoting a broad war on terror focused on the Middle East. According to its website, the MEF "seeks to define and promote American interests in the Middle East." It defines U.S. interests as including "fighting radical Islam, whether terroristic or lawful; working for Palestinian acceptance of Israel; improving the management of U.S. democracy efforts; reducing energy dependence on the Middle East; more robustly asserting U.S. interests vis-à-vis Saudi Arabia; and countering the Iranian threat."
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"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 19 September 2007 - 07:45 AM
Musa, on Dec 9 2004, 09:14 AM, said:
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If anyone has heard of this guy he is a deciever just like the Dejal will be. I listened to him on the ABC radio and then went into his site. We must be getting close to the end times if they have made this guy a spokeman for US- middle east relations.
If anyone has heard of this guy he is a deciever just like the Dejal will be. I listened to him on the ABC radio and then went into his site. We must be getting close to the end times if they have made this guy a spokeman for US- middle east relations.
Daniel Pipes once wrote in the LA Times (i think) that Muslims should NOT be "Nostalgic" over Jerusalem, and that they (the Muslims) should not even consider that Jerusalem played any part in Islam !!!
... and in answer to that, our Eminent Sheikh Imran Hosein wrote a book.
This Book, a masterpiece at that, was partly in response to the remarks make by Daniel Pipes, and mainly to enlighten the Muslim World how important a part Jerusalem played in Islam - and we thank him for that !
Most scholars of Islam today (including the clerics) are much too busy in petty squabbles of all sorts, that they tend to forget the "essence" and are easily deterred by "aspects" of a lesser nature.
Is this so, partly because our 'modern day' clerics spend far too little time in 'Dar ul Ulooms' studying just one or maybe two subjects, and then they are let loose into the world without sufficient knowledge on the very subjects that they are taught? Or is it because they think that they have gained that "outward" knowledge and feel that they can "see it all" quite sufficiently? How dangerous it is for our future.
Where are those "Men of Iron and Steel" today? - Like the Eminent Sheikh of beloved memory ... Maulana Dr Muhammed Fadhlur Rahman al Ansari al Qadri (r.a.), or the likes of Maulana Shah Abdul Aleem Sidiqqui (r.a.) (The Roving Ambassador of Peace)?
I am certain that under these Ulema the scholars would have had a tremendous advantage in this day and age, especially in this age of Fitan - trials & tribualtions.
- moreover, in this the Last Age.
It is in my opinion that every Muslim should read the book by Sheikh Imran Hosein ... "Jerusalem in the Qur'an". Perchance it may enlighten the youth on the very topic.
To date there has been no response from the likes of Daniel Pipes ... or from any quarter opposing Islam at that.
Alhamdolillah ... Truth will always prevail - Aameen !]
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Yacoob.zw, on Sep 19 2007, 07:45 AM, said:
Alhamdolillah ... Truth will always prevail - Aameen !]
Indeed, Alhamduillah!!!
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irfyte, on Feb 10 2005, 01:47 PM, said:
because believe me, if daniel pipes' popularity continues to grow, i think we will all have to start moving to new zealand.
..please don't do that.
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Campus-Watch Watch: Middle East McCarthyism?
Watching Campus-Watch: Interview with Prof. Rashid Khalidi
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"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:18 AM
This guy is a joker!
A title from one of his blog posts "Strange Sex Stories from the Middle East"
Need I say more...
A title from one of his blog posts "Strange Sex Stories from the Middle East"
Need I say more...
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