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#1 theMu'min

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 11:43 AM

Muslim hate preacher ridicules troops abused in anti-war protests - and mocks their dead comrade

By Michael Seamark, Andrew Levy and Matt Sandy Source

Last updated at 11:00 AM on 11th March 2009

A Muslim preacher of hate today ridiculed British soldiers who were abused during a homecoming parade - branding them cowards who have an 'uncanny knack for death by friendly fire'.

Firebrand preacher Anjem Choudary praised the Muslims who had protested at yesterday's parade for the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment in Luton.

And in an inflammatory message posted on an Islamic extremist website, Choudary viciously mocked their comrade who was killed by friendly fire in Iraq.

His words came as police charged a man who allegedly shouted abuse at the Muslim anti-war protesters.

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Venom: Faces contorted with fury, some of the Muslim demonstrator who marred the homecoming of the Royal Anglian Regiment yesterday
The preacher of hate, who has links with banned Muslim cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, likened the soldiers to Nazis and branded yesterday's homecoming a 'vile parade' of 'brutal murderers'.

Choudary said: 'On 10th March 2009 200 pathetic and cowardly British soldiers from the second battalion, of the Royal Anglian Regiment, pompously marched through Luton to demonstrate their skill at murdering and torturing thousands of innocent Muslim men, women and children (in Iraq) over a 24-month period.'

Choudary leads the controversial Islam For The UK organisation which wants Britain to be an Islamic state, ruled by Sharia law.
His group was formed after Bakri's fundamentalist organisation Al-Muhajiroun was baned by the Government.

Anjem Choudary has praised the Muslim anti-war protesters while hate preacher Omar Bakri has said he feels pride at their demonstration

He said: 'Non-Muslims in Britain must appreciate that the actions of the British soldiers must be condemned unreservedly; they are not heroes but closer to cowards who cannot fight, as their uncanny knack for death by 'friendly fire' illustrates.'

His cruel comments were clearly designed to mock the memory of Private Darren George, 23, from Pirbright, Surrey, who was shot by a colleague in Kabul on April 9, 2002.

Today it was revealed that yesterday's shocking scenes were likely to have been organised by an extremist group directly linked to Bakri Mohammed.

Within hours of the march ending the London School of Sharia had posted a message in support on its website.

The group is led by Bakri, 51, the 'Tottenham Ayotollah', who now preaches to his followers from Lebanon via videos posted on websites after he was barred from Britain.

One protester at yesterday's rally, Sayful Islam, the leader of the Luton branch of an organisation that has the same beliefs as al-Muhajiroun, was unrepentant today.


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Returning heroes: Members of the 2nd Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment parading through Luton yesterday after their tour of duty in Iraq
He said: 'The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult. They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can't come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community.'


Last month members of the same group were seen at an anti-Israel demonstration in the Bedfordshire town.


In his internet posting, Anjem Choudary said that the British soldiers were 'terrorists'.

He said: 'They cannot be excused for simply 'carrying out their duty', which incidentally (and vividly) was also used by Nazi soldiers in Germany to justify their notorious and bloody campaigns in the early 20th century.'

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Sickening: The protesters had printed out placards, branding the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment 'cowards' and 'killers'


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Police closely monitor the anti-Army group as the 200-strong regiment passes through Luton town centre

Yesterday the 200 troops were faced with the hate-filled jeers of anti-war protesters waving placards saying: ‘Anglian soldiers: Butchers of Basra,’ and ‘Anglian soldiers: cowards, killers, extremists.’

Police were already out in force to protect the anti-war group and arrested two men among the soldiers’ supporters.

Last night the mother of David Hicks, a captain with the Royal Anglian Regiment who was killed in Afghanistan in August 2007, called the protests ‘extremely distressing’.

‘I felt very saddened and extremely upset,’ said Mrs Hicks, of Wokingham, Berkshire. ‘I also feel a little angry. I think every mother or father who has lost somebody in Afghanistan or Iraq would feel very difficult about this.
‘It’s very easy to tarnish all the Muslim community with the same brush, but I do wonder, if the roles were reversed, if such a protest would be allowed in a Muslim country.’

Gordon Brown condemned the protests and ministers and senior politicians branded the demonstration ‘insulting’ and ‘sordid.’

Shadow Secretary of State for Defence Dr Liam Fox said: ‘This is offensive, appalling and disgraceful.

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Elsewhere along the route hundreds of townsfolk turned out to clap and cheer on the soldiers



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Tempers flared as pro-Army supporters took offence at the small protest and police were forced to separate the groups


'It is only because of the sacrifices made by our armed forces that these people live in a free society where they are able to make their sordid protests.’

Luton South Labour MP Margaret Moran called for an inquiry into the way police handled the incident.

She said: ‘Calling people baby-killers and the rest seems to amount to provocation of the worst kind when these lads and lasses have risked their lives for the freedom these people enjoy. It seems to me this amounted to huge provocation and was potentially racially divisive.’

But the Muslim protesters were unrepentant. Teacher Sayful Islam, self-styled leader of the Luton branch of al-Muhajiroun – the now-banned radical organisation led by Sheikh Omar Bakri – said: ‘The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult.

‘They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’



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Posters were displayed accusing the Army of maiming babies and innocent civilians in Iraq



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Counter attack: A placard spells out backing for our troops


The battalion is based in Germany, but Bedfordshire is one of the areas where it recruits, along with neighbouring Hertfordshire and Northamptonshire.

Trouble flared as the soldiers marched to a meeting with the Duke of Gloucester, the regiment’s colonel-in-chief, and local dignitaries.

He said:' The anger has been rising up. The parade was the final insult.
'They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can't come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?'

Leaflets urging Muslims to demonstrate against the soldiers' homecoming had been distributed around Luton earlier in the week.

Under the headline 'Criminals' it railed against the troops' 'audacity' at marching though the town centre and accused them of having 'blood on their hands.'


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View from behind the veil: A group of Muslim women at the demonstration




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Sign of dissent: An anti-government message


It read 'Muhammad said :"He among you who sees a munkar (evil) should change it with his hand. If he can not do that , then with his tongue(by speaking out against it)".'

It finished with the words:' We urge the Muslims of Luton not to stay silent against these murderers of Muslim men, women and children and to do what we as Muslims have been obliged to do and speak against an open evil.'

Police had penned the protesters into a small area and two lines of officers separated them from a large number of local people, waving Union and St George’s flags. At one point a man climbed onto a roof and threw a packet of bacon at the Muslim group.

Bedfordshire police said the Muslim protesters were later ‘escorted from the area to a safe place to disperse’.

The force said last night: ‘Everything that went on will be examined and if any offences have been committed then we will arrest them.’

An Army spokesman said the battalion, which is due to take part in a similar march in Watford today, was ‘deeply touched’ by the strong support shown by the people of Luton.

He said: ‘There is no better boost to a soldier than to see hundreds of people turn out to watch them on parade.'
Palestine, Ramallah, West Bank, Gaza ...... wish I could take away your tears and fill them with laughter......

#2 theMu'min

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 11:44 AM



Organiser is questioned about the protest on GMTV ! Mashallah a very well spoken brother in my opinion.
Palestine, Ramallah, West Bank, Gaza ...... wish I could take away your tears and fill them with laughter......

#3 Othman

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:20 PM

Preacher of hate? More like preacher of the unpalatable truth.

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‘I felt very saddened and extremely upset,’ said Mrs Hicks, of Wokingham, Berkshire. ‘I also feel a little angry. I think every mother or father who has lost somebody in Afghanistan or Iraq would feel very difficult about this...'
She should be feeling extremely upset at the government who sent her boy to a death of futility to the end of political and economic interests.

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'It is only because of the sacrifices made by our armed forces that these people live in a free society where they are able to make their sordid protests.’
:lol:
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#4 Othman

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 02:21 PM

I'm not sure whether the place and timing of the protest was the best. Nevertheless, brother Anjem did well in the interview.
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#5 Aqeel.Shabazz

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 03:34 PM

Whilst I agree that protesting is a good way to get your message across I most certainly have a problem with Anjem Chowdry and Omar Bakri.. They are most certainly preachers of hate..

Listen to Anjem Chowdry's response to the 7/7 attacks claiming that yes they're against the murder of innocent civilians, but by innocent they mean Muslim because if you're not a Muslim you've committed a crime against God..



I think you people should research who you praise before you do so in the future..
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#6 Othman

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 12:11 PM

^Lol, so I take it you researched 'your' Australian troops and the government who sent them (and their allies) before your praised their work (invasion) in Afghanisation?

You need to appreciate the the difference between praising an action and praising a person per se. When I say that he did well in the interview, that's all I mean. Nothing is intending about any (let only every) other view or action of his.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 01:52 PM

View PostOthman, on Mar 13 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

^Lol, so I take it you researched 'your' Australian troops and the government who sent them (and their allies) before your praised their work (invasion) in Afghanisation?

You need to appreciate the the difference between praising an action and praising a person per se. When I say that he did well in the interview, that's all I mean. Nothing is intending about any (let only every) other view or action of his.
I think it's important to know who you're praising before you do so, because on forums like this where millions of people read it they might mistake your support for the main message of the single interview with blanket support of the person if you don't put a disclaimer in there.
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 08:56 AM

That is a valid criticism, but any regular reader of Othman's postings should know that he is very precise with his use of language and he generally means no more and no less than he says.
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#9 Mademoiselle

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 09:28 AM

we're supposed to thank people for having courage??
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 08:47 AM

View PostMademoiselle, on Mar 17 2009, 09:28 AM, said:

we're supposed to thank people for having courage??

doesn't stop some muslims from thanking suicide bombers who blow up mosques and funerals in iraq and pakistan, does it? :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 08:50 AM

View PostOthman, on Mar 13 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

^Lol, so I take it you researched 'your' Australian troops and the government who sent them (and their allies) before your praised their work (invasion) in Afghanisation?

You need to appreciate the the difference between praising an action and praising a person per se. When I say that he did well in the interview, that's all I mean. Nothing is intending about any (let only every) other view or action of his.

thank god people like you are in the minority. it must hurt you to see that out of 20,000 muslims in Luton, only 20 bothered to show up. no muslim in england likes anjem or the clowns that represent al-muhajiroun.

do you also agree with anjem when he says that "killings of non-muslims is legitimate'?



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