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#1 unpredictable

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 01:06 PM

Whilst looking for information on halal certified food I came across this website http://www.sunnybran...creditation.htm I notice at the bottom of the page it says they are certified to produce products slaughtered under Islamic rights. Does this mean all their food is halal? Do all halal products display a halal certified symbol?

Also, in relation to fast food chains... I have been told that all chicken in twisters from KFC are halal, whether its a halal store or not. I have also seen on the adds that KFC use ingham chicken, does this mean all ingham chicken is halal? I have noticed soft serve is also served at halal McDonalds in Sydney but I have heard there is pig in it!? Is this true? It is probably best to get in contact with the specific business concerned!?!

I have found a few lists here and there of halal certified restaurant, products and ingredients.

halal.com.au
http://www.afic.com.au/Halal01.htm
halalaustralia.com
Cadbury Halal List
Masterfoods Halal List
islam-australia.com Halal List
halalhelpline
MV Threads
Halal & Haram Lists & Codes
Emulsifiers
Emulsifier 471 & Sanitarium
Gelatine Content In Lollies
Chips


I have emailed a few companies with my queries and will post the responses up here :)
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 04:12 PM

This is the reply in relation to my KFC enquiry:

Thanks for taking the time to contact us in regards to Halal.

At the present time our only Halal Certified stores are in New South
Wales; Punchbowl and Bankstown South and in Victoria; Fawkner. None of
the other KFC stores are Halal certified so the products can not be
counted as Halal.


The chips from KFC are cooked in palm oil and are seasoned with seasoning salt, not chicken salt, which contains emulsifier 471.

Edited by unpredictable, 23 November 2006 - 01:57 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 01:58 PM

A call from Oporto head office confirmed that ALL products EXCEPT BACON is halal certified at ALL Oporto stores.

Halal McDonalds are - Punchbowl, Lidcombe and Bankstown in NSW
East Brunswick and St Albans in Victoria
I have a list of Halal Ingredients from mcDonalds in pdf but dont know how to post or host it.
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Posted 23 November 2006 - 02:01 PM

A call from Oporto head office confirmed that ALL products EXCEPT BACON is halal certified at ALL Oporto stores.

Halal McDonalds are - Punchbowl, Lidcombe and Bankstown in NSW
East Brunswick and St Albans in Victoria
I have a list of Halal Ingredients from mcDonalds in pdf but dont know how to post or host it.

 



Are there any Oporto stores that don't sell bacon?
Since having everything else halal certified is a bit of a mute point if the food is prepared using the same utensils as that bacon.
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Posted 23 November 2006 - 02:10 PM

Halal McDonalds are - Punchbowl, Lidcombe and Bankstown in NSW
East Brunswick and St Albans in Victoria
I have a list of Halal Ingredients from mcDonalds in pdf but dont know how to post or host it.

 

Err the McDonalds at East Brunswick may have halal certification, but considering who gave it to them [and the fact that he's in Sydney], I wont be eating there ever again.
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Posted 24 November 2006 - 07:49 AM

A call from Oporto head office confirmed that ALL products EXCEPT BACON is halal certified at ALL Oporto stores.

thank heavens for that ;)

I have a list of Halal Ingredients from mcDonalds in pdf but dont know how to post or host it.

 


add it as an attachment. if you have issues, send it to me and I'll sort that out for you.
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Posted 24 November 2006 - 01:24 PM

thank heavens for that ;)
add it as an attachment. if you have issues, send it to me and I'll sort that out for you.

 


LOL about the bacon. It does seem silly. but thats what head office said, saves others calling and getting the same answer.

Thanks for letting me know about the attachment thing.. I never noticed :)

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 01:50 PM

I'd like to see a more in-depth ingredients list..with everything inside their food. Though I guess we can make a decision based upon the list given... since we can assume the only thing left out of the list are bacon and ham.

Kudos to you for taking the initiative to get halal info from these companies. Your reward will be plentiful and with Allah alone, Aameen.

Edited by Jaaved, 24 November 2006 - 01:53 PM.

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 02:03 PM

I'd like to see a more in-depth ingredients list..with everything inside their food. Though I guess we can make a decision based upon the list given... since we can assume the only thing left out of the list are bacon and ham.

Kudos to you for taking the initiative to get halal info from these companies. Your reward will be plentiful and with Allah alone, Aameen.

 


Great to see that they cleared up what we already knew - that Bacon wasn't halal :P
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 09:37 AM

Salams!
Some more info

From Baida

All our products are Halal apart from our sausages and any fresh Kebabs
or
Wing Nibbles marinated in BBQ Marinate.

Baida products can be found in the frozen food section of your local supermarket (woolies, coles etc)

From Inghams

Thank you for your email regarding halal chicken. This product is only
supplied in QLD and WA to certain stores.


I'm currently waiting for the exact locations :)
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Posted 14 December 2006 - 08:52 PM

Salaam. This question is a bit off topic, but Im wondering if anyone knows the answer. I am aware that certain Islamic organisations collect money from certifying that certain foods are halal. Is this an acceptable practice according to Islamic Law and does anyone know how that money is allocated and used.
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:31 PM

jazak allah khair, this is ideal for me and my wife we just started eating halal :)
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:39 PM

Salaam. This question is a bit off topic, but Im wondering if anyone knows the answer. I am aware that certain Islamic organisations collect money from certifying that certain foods are halal. Is this an acceptable practice according to Islamic Law and does anyone know how that money is allocated and used.

 


Salaam,
I have heard that companies pay to have the halal accreditation stamp on their products. But this was on Today Tonight, so I dont know its validity!
As for where the money goes, Allah Alem.
I do know that you can be accredited by AFIC or ICV ?? Perhaps you could contact them to find out :)

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:40 PM

jazak allah khair, this is ideal for me and my wife we just started eating halal :)

 

Excellent! May Allah accept your good deeds.

Eating halal can be a challenge, it means reading all the labels on everything you buy and eating nice home-cooked meals!

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 08:48 PM

Salaam,
I have heard that companies pay to have the halal accreditation stamp on their products. But this was on Today Tonight, so I dont know its validity!
As for where the money goes, Allah Alem.
I do know that you can be accredited by AFIC or ICV ?? Perhaps you could contact them  to find out :)

Was salaam
Erin

 


yep, they can fork out the big dollars for a fax copy of a halal accreditated letter for the Ummah.
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 09:50 PM

Halal certification is a load of crap in this country.

Its all bullcrap. People need to start educating themselves and making their own decisions. What does a piece of paper with some Egyptian guy's name on it actually mean?

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:18 PM

LOL about the bacon.  It does seem silly.  but thats what head office said, saves others calling and getting the same answer.

Thanks for letting me know about the attachment thing.. I never noticed :)

 


Yeh i've read the list of ingrediants to because my kids and I love the soft serve there but also have heard that it contains pig
I have emailed maccas and ask if the emusifiers used is not animal derived.
But the cheese contains rennet, isnt that animal derived as well?
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 11:13 PM

Halal certification is a load of crap in this country.

Its all bullcrap. People need to start educating themselves and making their own decisions. What does a piece of paper with some Egyptian guy's name on it actually mean?

 


Assalamu alaykum.

There are halal "certifiers" and then there are "halal certifiers". I've been through the process for my products. The first, I was not happy with as thorough checks were not done and eventually found them to certify blindly. Although approved for certification by them, I didn't accept or pay for it.

The second, did checks and is also a food technologist- so he knows what he's talking about.

Just as there's paid annual subscriptions for magazines and such, it's likewise for halal certification.

Still, I also believe we should ourselves seek to find out as much as we can about any product. The process that is involved to reach final product status. The availability of raw resources that are said to be "halal". By any means, you can't judge a book by it's cover.

Interestingly enough, googling around yesterday, I happened to stumble across the Halal Watch blog. They had a piece about Beacon marshmallows. Now, I've bought these myself in the past, but I had no idea about their halal status. Even though there is a halal certifying logo on the pack, the product may not be halal.
The main cerifying board in South Africa is SANHA. They have said "SANHA has not yet adopted a specific ruling regarding the permissibility/impermissibility of gelatine. The MJC have declared it halal, not on the basis of tabdil al-mahiyah (complete transformation), but on the basis of umum balwah (public predicament)". JULY 2004
Can be checked out at www.sanha.org.za

There is no complete transformation in manufacturing gelatine either.

Okay, I'm not just bringing this to the front because I'm selling halal marshmallows. The issue is, how do we really know what is halal when this can happen? There are many imported products on the market with the halal logo, some certified, some not. How do we know the real halal from the one's posing to be halal? Halal has become commercialised and everyone wants a piece of it.

When I'm in doubt about a product being halal, I personally bypass it. What do you brothers and sisters think?


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Posted 16 January 2008 - 11:30 PM

Hi, really interesting thread. Thought this might help you all. You can send an email to: info@halalhelpline.org And just simply ask for a Halal Guide. This guide has a list of many things at the supermarket which are halal. :)

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 10:51 AM

Salaam,

does anyone have an up-to-date copy of this guide??

I just looked at the one on the net, and its dated 2001 - thought they might have changed it in the last 8 years!

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 10:52 AM

P.S Can you post it up if you do have it, Jezak'Allah kheir,
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Posted 30 September 2009 - 09:42 PM

P.S Can you post it up if you do have it, Jezak'Allah kheir,
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Assalamu alaykum sis

The brother informed me that this is the latest. It is from last year.

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Posted 01 October 2009 - 04:05 PM

The other day hubby and i went to Bankstown Maccas and ordered a chicken deluxe, the guy that served us said he just wanted to let us know that the chicken deluxe burger wasnt Halal because it was a different chicken patty and not certified. so im confused because this burger is on this list...
Anyone have any idea?
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Posted 01 October 2009 - 04:10 PM

JazakAllah
Thanks for that, Very Useful :-)


Assalamu alaykum sis

The brother informed me that this is the latest. It is from last year.

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