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#31 Guest_Alif_*
Posted 05 February 2004 - 07:29 PM
Yeah, I've read that quote before. Top stuff !
Shaykh Hamza used it once too!
Shaykh Hamza used it once too!
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Posted 08 February 2004 - 09:01 PM
The Pauper and the Prisoners
The pauper said, "Your beneficence is my sustenance;
To me, as to aliens, your prison is a paradise.
If you banish me from your prison in reprobation,
I must needs die of poverty and affliction."
Just so Iblis said to Allah, "O have compassion;
Lord! respite me till the day of resurrection;
For in this prison of the world I am at oase,
That I may slay the children of my enemies.
From every one who has true faith for food,
And as bread for his provisions by the way,
I take it away by fraud or deceit,
So that they raise bitter cries of regret.
Sometimes I menace them with poverty,
Sometimes I blind their eyes with tresses and moles."
In this prison the food of true faith is scarce,
And by the tricks of this dog what there is is lost.
In spite of prayers and fasts and endless pains,
Our food is altogether devoured by him.
Let us seek refuge with Allah from Satan.
Alas ! we are perishing by his insolence.
The dog is one, yet he enters a thousand forms;
Whatever he enters straight becomes himself.
Whatever makes you shiver, know he is in it,
The Devil is hidden beneath its outward form.
When he finds no form at hand, he enters your thoughts,
To cause them to draw you into sin.
From your thoughts proceeds destruction,
When from time to time evil thoughts occur to you.
Sometimes thoughts of pleasure, sometimes of business,
Sometimes thoughts of science, sometimes of house and home.
Sometimes thoughts of gain and traffic,
Sometimes thoughts of merchandise and wealth.
Sometimes thoughts of money and wives and children,
Sometimes thoughts of wisdom or of sadness.
Sometimes thoughts of household goods and fine linen,
Sometimes thoughts of carpets, sometimes of sweepers.
Sometimes thoughts of mills, gardens, and villas,
Sometimes of clouds and mists and jokes and jests.
Sometimes thoughts of peace and war,
Sometimes thoughts of honor and disgrace.Ah! cast out of your head these vain imaginations,
Ah! sweep out of your heart these evil suggestions.
Cry, "There is no power nor strength but in God!"
To avert the Evil One from the world and your own soul.
It is the true Beloved who causes all
outward earthly beauty to exist.
Whatsoever is perceived by sense He annuls,
But He establishes that which is hidden from the senses.
The lover's love is visible, his Beloved hidden.
The Friend is absent, the distraction he causes present.
Renounce these affections for outward forms,
Love depends not on outward form or face.
Whatever is beloved is not a mere empty form,
Whether your beloved be of the earth or of heaven.
Whatever be the form you have fallen in love with,
Why do you forsake it the moment life leaves it?
The form is still there; whence, then, this disgust at it?
Ah! lover, consider well what is really your beloved.
If a thing perceived by outward senses is the beloved,
Then all who retain their senses must still love it;
And since love increases constancy,
How can constancy fail while form abides?
But the truth is, the sun's beams strike the wall,
And the wall only reflects that borrowed light.
Why give your heart to mere stones, O simpleton?
Go! seek the source of light which shineth always!
Distinguish well true dawn from false dawn,
Distinguish the color of the wine from that of the cup;
So that, instead of many eyes of caprice,
One eye may be opened through patience and constancy.
Then you will behold true colors instead of false,
And precious jewels in lieu of stones.
But what is a jewel? Nay, you will be an ocean of pearls;
Yea, a sun that measures the heavens!
The real Workman is hidden in His workshop,
Go you into that workshop and see Him face to face.
Inasmuch as over that Workman His work spreads a curtain,
You cannot see Him outside His work.
Since His workshop is the abode of the Wise One,
Whoso seeks Him without is ignorant of Him.
Come, then, into His workshop, which is Not-being,
That you may see the Creator and creation at once.
Whoso has seen how bright is the workshop
Sees how obscure is the outside of that shop.
Rebellious Pharaoh set his face towards Being (egoism),
And was perforce blind to that workshop.
Perforce he looked for the Divine decree to change,
And hoped to turn his destiny from his door.
While destiny at the impotence of that crafty one
All the while was secretly mocking.
He slew a hundred thousand guiltless babes
That the ordinance and decree of Allah might be thwarted.
That the prophet Moses might not be born alive,
He committed a thousand murders in the land.
He did all this, yet Moses was born,
And was protected against his wrath.
Had he but seen the Eternal workshop,
He had refrained hand and foot from these vain devices.
Within his house was Moses safe and sound,
While he was killing the babes outside to no purpose.
Just so the slave of lusts who pampers his body
Fancies that some other man bears him ill-will;
Saying this one is my enemy, and this one my foe,
While it is his own body which is his enemy and foe,
He is like Pharaoh, and his body is like Moses,
He runs abroad crying, "where is my foe?"
While lust is in his house, which is his body,
He bites his finger in spite against strangers.
- Maulana Rumi
The pauper said, "Your beneficence is my sustenance;
To me, as to aliens, your prison is a paradise.
If you banish me from your prison in reprobation,
I must needs die of poverty and affliction."
Just so Iblis said to Allah, "O have compassion;
Lord! respite me till the day of resurrection;
For in this prison of the world I am at oase,
That I may slay the children of my enemies.
From every one who has true faith for food,
And as bread for his provisions by the way,
I take it away by fraud or deceit,
So that they raise bitter cries of regret.
Sometimes I menace them with poverty,
Sometimes I blind their eyes with tresses and moles."
In this prison the food of true faith is scarce,
And by the tricks of this dog what there is is lost.
In spite of prayers and fasts and endless pains,
Our food is altogether devoured by him.
Let us seek refuge with Allah from Satan.
Alas ! we are perishing by his insolence.
The dog is one, yet he enters a thousand forms;
Whatever he enters straight becomes himself.
Whatever makes you shiver, know he is in it,
The Devil is hidden beneath its outward form.
When he finds no form at hand, he enters your thoughts,
To cause them to draw you into sin.
From your thoughts proceeds destruction,
When from time to time evil thoughts occur to you.
Sometimes thoughts of pleasure, sometimes of business,
Sometimes thoughts of science, sometimes of house and home.
Sometimes thoughts of gain and traffic,
Sometimes thoughts of merchandise and wealth.
Sometimes thoughts of money and wives and children,
Sometimes thoughts of wisdom or of sadness.
Sometimes thoughts of household goods and fine linen,
Sometimes thoughts of carpets, sometimes of sweepers.
Sometimes thoughts of mills, gardens, and villas,
Sometimes of clouds and mists and jokes and jests.
Sometimes thoughts of peace and war,
Sometimes thoughts of honor and disgrace.Ah! cast out of your head these vain imaginations,
Ah! sweep out of your heart these evil suggestions.
Cry, "There is no power nor strength but in God!"
To avert the Evil One from the world and your own soul.
It is the true Beloved who causes all
outward earthly beauty to exist.
Whatsoever is perceived by sense He annuls,
But He establishes that which is hidden from the senses.
The lover's love is visible, his Beloved hidden.
The Friend is absent, the distraction he causes present.
Renounce these affections for outward forms,
Love depends not on outward form or face.
Whatever is beloved is not a mere empty form,
Whether your beloved be of the earth or of heaven.
Whatever be the form you have fallen in love with,
Why do you forsake it the moment life leaves it?
The form is still there; whence, then, this disgust at it?
Ah! lover, consider well what is really your beloved.
If a thing perceived by outward senses is the beloved,
Then all who retain their senses must still love it;
And since love increases constancy,
How can constancy fail while form abides?
But the truth is, the sun's beams strike the wall,
And the wall only reflects that borrowed light.
Why give your heart to mere stones, O simpleton?
Go! seek the source of light which shineth always!
Distinguish well true dawn from false dawn,
Distinguish the color of the wine from that of the cup;
So that, instead of many eyes of caprice,
One eye may be opened through patience and constancy.
Then you will behold true colors instead of false,
And precious jewels in lieu of stones.
But what is a jewel? Nay, you will be an ocean of pearls;
Yea, a sun that measures the heavens!
The real Workman is hidden in His workshop,
Go you into that workshop and see Him face to face.
Inasmuch as over that Workman His work spreads a curtain,
You cannot see Him outside His work.
Since His workshop is the abode of the Wise One,
Whoso seeks Him without is ignorant of Him.
Come, then, into His workshop, which is Not-being,
That you may see the Creator and creation at once.
Whoso has seen how bright is the workshop
Sees how obscure is the outside of that shop.
Rebellious Pharaoh set his face towards Being (egoism),
And was perforce blind to that workshop.
Perforce he looked for the Divine decree to change,
And hoped to turn his destiny from his door.
While destiny at the impotence of that crafty one
All the while was secretly mocking.
He slew a hundred thousand guiltless babes
That the ordinance and decree of Allah might be thwarted.
That the prophet Moses might not be born alive,
He committed a thousand murders in the land.
He did all this, yet Moses was born,
And was protected against his wrath.
Had he but seen the Eternal workshop,
He had refrained hand and foot from these vain devices.
Within his house was Moses safe and sound,
While he was killing the babes outside to no purpose.
Just so the slave of lusts who pampers his body
Fancies that some other man bears him ill-will;
Saying this one is my enemy, and this one my foe,
While it is his own body which is his enemy and foe,
He is like Pharaoh, and his body is like Moses,
He runs abroad crying, "where is my foe?"
While lust is in his house, which is his body,
He bites his finger in spite against strangers.
- Maulana Rumi
#33 Guest_Alif_*
Posted 20 February 2004 - 03:50 PM
B e drunk on Love, for only
Love exists; there's
No meeting the Beloved without
Love as herald.
They ask, "What's Love?"
Reply, 'Renouncing the will.'
He who hasn't tossed will aside
doesn't know God.
The Lover is a monarch:
two worlds lie at his feet;
The King pays no attention
to what lies under his.
It's Love and the lover that live eternally;
Set your heart on this only:
the rest is borrowed.
- Maulana Rumi
Love exists; there's
No meeting the Beloved without
Love as herald.
They ask, "What's Love?"
Reply, 'Renouncing the will.'
He who hasn't tossed will aside
doesn't know God.
The Lover is a monarch:
two worlds lie at his feet;
The King pays no attention
to what lies under his.
It's Love and the lover that live eternally;
Set your heart on this only:
the rest is borrowed.
- Maulana Rumi
#34 Guest_Atticus_*
Posted 19 November 2004 - 02:32 PM
The Donkey
It is narrated that, one day Moulana Rumi was giving a discourse in the Seminary and relating the inner meaning of many mysteries, when he asked whether the audience of students and his disciples understood why it is said: 'Of all cries the braying of a donkey is the worst.'
Moulana Rumi said: 'Most animals and creatures when they utter sounds, pray and sing the praises of God; such as the camel, the she-camel; the humming of the bees, the sound that a wasp might make, but he donkey brays for no such purpose. He lifts his voice on only two occasions: when he is hungry and when he has a desire for mating. Likewise is a man.'
Said Moulana, 'in whose heart love of the Lord finds no place, He is in fact a lesser being than a donkey.' And he recited the verse thus:
' Those whose passions are like the donkey's are less than it !
If thou knowest not The Path; Then do the reverse of that which the donkey wants.'
It is narrated that, one day Moulana Rumi was giving a discourse in the Seminary and relating the inner meaning of many mysteries, when he asked whether the audience of students and his disciples understood why it is said: 'Of all cries the braying of a donkey is the worst.'
Moulana Rumi said: 'Most animals and creatures when they utter sounds, pray and sing the praises of God; such as the camel, the she-camel; the humming of the bees, the sound that a wasp might make, but he donkey brays for no such purpose. He lifts his voice on only two occasions: when he is hungry and when he has a desire for mating. Likewise is a man.'
Said Moulana, 'in whose heart love of the Lord finds no place, He is in fact a lesser being than a donkey.' And he recited the verse thus:
' Those whose passions are like the donkey's are less than it !
If thou knowest not The Path; Then do the reverse of that which the donkey wants.'
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 03:11 PM
- Why America Needs Rumi
By: Maliha Masood*
Asia Times (Nov 2004)
When Cat Stevens (a.k.a. Yusuf Islam) got on a plane from London, it did not touch ground at Dulles International as anticipated. Instead the flight was diverted to Maine's Bangor airport where the former pop singer turned Muslim peace activist endured a four hour detention and a subsequent return to England on grounds of being on a government watch list. Refusal to enter the United States also befell a prominent Swiss/Muslim scholar whose visa to teach at the University of Notre Dame was revoked at the last minute. Both scenarios are sordid examples of the paranoia that has engulfed the US administration in the name of national security. They alienate meaningful cultural dialogue, reinforce stereotypes and deepen the growing chasm between Islam and the West.
Perhaps it is somewhat surprising then that one of America's most widely read and best selling poets has been a devout Muslim mystic born eight centuries ago in Afghanistan – Maulana Jelaluddin Rumi. His verses in praise of Allah were set to music by Madonna; Donna Karan has used recitations of his poetry as background to her fashion shows. A two year old Time magazine article heralds the rise of Rumi's popularity with American readers in the tenuous aftermath of September 11, when Harper Collins published a pricey hardback entitled The Soul of Rumi, 400 pages of poetry translated by Coleman Barks, to follow up its previous best seller, The Essential Rumi, published in 1995 with more than 250,000 copies in print. In the currently deteriorating relations between America and Islamic constituents, the words of an ancient Muslim mystic as having captured the hearts of so many Americans might seem a total aberration or imply some hidden logic of hope and renewal.
Historic Linkages
The 13th century Rumi was no stranger to cultural animosity. He had witnessed the Mongol pillage and plunder of Muslim dynasties of Central and West Asia. Influenced by Islamic Sufism and the Christian mysticism of St. John of the Cross, he longed for a world exuding immense affection for humankind. This alone could turn the world into a paradise. His verses spread the message of love - love for its own sake, not in consideration of a good turn – that resonated with Western/Christian teachings of selfless love. The twentieth century German poet Hans Meinke considered Rumi's work as "the only hope for the dark times we are living in."
In his masterpiece, the Mathnawi, (a Persian word for God), Rumi bleeds the sacred and the profane, countering the notion that Islam is antithetical to secular thought. He likens the world to a tavern, where people drunk with desire and longing, mingle around until they realize their calling to return to a God whose sweeping love supercedes all earthly love from the most mundane to the deepest of passions. He poses a question that we have all asked ourselves at point or another: "Where did I come from, and what am I supposed to be doing?" His answer: "I have no idea. My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there."
The God intoxicated philosophy of Rumi urging a spiritual union with the divine showcases the softer, prettier side of Islam known as Sufism that Westerners find most appealing. But what the majority of non-Muslims and even most Muslims don't realize is that this all abiding love for God rooted in the idea of Tawhid or oneness, free from the institutionalized mosque culture and the heady violence committed in the name of the Holy Quran, is the real heart and soul of Islam, not an esoteric branch of faith disguised as mystical belief. It is also important to realize that an Islam without barriers - be they national, cultural or dogmatic - is not an instamatic oasis of peace - but a daily striving of human dignity overriding power and greed. Rumi reflects on the spiritual journey that welcomes uncertainty and places the burden of responsibility on the individual to make enlightened choices.
"This being human is a guest house.
Every morning a new arrival.
A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor.
Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they're a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of it's furniture,
still, treat each guest honorably.
He may be clearing you out
for some new delight.
The dark thought the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.
Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent as a guide from beyond."
(The Essential Rumi, 109)
Feeding Spiritual Hunger
Public figures such as Oprah Winfrey and Deepak Choprah have made it clear that Americans are in search of getting in touch with their "inner self". Evidence of this can be found in any New Age book store across the nation promoting a wide variety of books dealing with enrichments from yoga to Zen Buddhism. Their common goal is to reach a state of serenity in a life fraught with chaos and material demands. Rumi is not the first Asian mystic imported to American shores to feed a dearth of spiritual poverty. Even though he speaks from a vessel grounded in Islamic concepts, his words refuse to essentialize one faith over another, but offer a seven hundred year old poetic history of human acceptance without limitations.
The enigma of Rumi's attraction to American audiences, despite a daily barrage of negative images and sound bites concerning Muslims, can be explained by the priority of religion in this society compared to its relative decline in Europe. The recent debate in Congress to retain the "one nation under God" clause in the pledge of allegiance attests to this theory. Furthermore, as Americans are among the most materially fortunate people in the world, they can also afford the luxury of spiritual exploration that developing nations, caught up in the daily stresses of basic survival, are less equipped to indulge in. Therefore, the message of Rumi is more relevant in an America grappling with individual sustenance and the collective neurosis of fear and ignorance when it comes to the "other".
The Sufi and the Terrorist
In the polarized tensions between Islamic militants, global terrorism, homeland security and national interests, the teachings of Rumi are all the more relevant in deflecting misunderstandings. It seems odd that the same poet is read with voracious intensity across America, Afghanistan and Iran. One would think that the World Trade center attacks would have also obliterated appreciation of Islamic literature and poetry in the US. But the Rumi resurgence in spite of or perhaps because of September 11, is a strong testament to Americans new found receptivity to learn more about Islam. Rumi is a necessary voice to bridge the gap between the Islam which stands for pluralism and tolerance and the belligerent abuse of religion branded by extremist factions, that gets the most media attention to distort public perceptions.
Since many Americans admire and relate to Rumi's philosophy, they can also learn to distinguish between Rumi's message of a peace loving Islam that embraces humanity and the misdirected Islam of bigotry and desperation that leads to violence. It is easy to forget that tragedies have occurred throughout history by people of other religions in the name of God. To categorize the entire tapestry of Muslims as dangerous because of the actions of militant elements (that are inexcusable and beyond justification) is a shortsighted tactic of addressing symptoms rather than the root causes of a particular disease. It can only lead to an endless cycle of reprisals and counter attacks. The onus on the American people to influence their allegedly representative government to channel the Sufi's passion for tolerance and understanding over the terrorist mentality of self righteousness indignation has never been greater.
Americanizing Rumi
It is arguable that Rumi's popularity in the US has been stripped of its linguistic and religious integrity and Americanized to accommodate a spiritual Starbucks of mass consumption. But an American Rumi who speaks to the hearts and minds of hundreds of thousands of people and builds bridges of understanding between Islam and the West is, after all, better than a defunct national media incapable of projecting a balanced perspective of the Muslim world and certainly more effective than the official rhetoric of good vs. evil, the evil being undoubtedly the "Islamist threat" that kept Yusuf Islam off US shores. A lover of irony, Rumi would have groaned knowingly at such an absurdity. He certainly would have appreciated the confluence of spiritual hunger and terrorist alerts that keeps his pages turning in America.
Maliha Masood is a graduate of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. She is the author of an upcoming travelogue on the Middle East to be published by Cune Press in 2005 and the co-producer of a documentary film on American-Muslim women. She currently resides in Seattle, WA.
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"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 06:12 PM
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 09:06 PM
Speak Honestly
Vain, boastful talk repels acts of kindness
and tears the branch of mercy from the trunk of the tree.
Speak honestly or else be silent,
and then behold grace and delight in it.
(Rumi, "Mathnawi" [III, 751-752])
From Jewels of Remembrance, by Rumi, selected and translated by Camille and Kabir Helminski, © 1996.
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 05:08 PM
" God has given you the polishing instrument, Reason, so that by means of it the surface of the heart may be made resplendent. "
(Rumi, "Mathnawi" [IV, 2475] )
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 27 February 2005 - 10:17 PM
Quote
The time for staying at home is over, It is time to enter the garden. The dawn of happiness has risen, the moment of union and vision is now. (Diwan)
Source: Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi, Muriel Maufroy, 1997)
Source: Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi, Muriel Maufroy, 1997)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 03 March 2005 - 04:39 PM
- Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, even the phrase 'each other' doesn't make any sense.
(Sources: Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi, Muriel Maufroy, ( 1997)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 04 March 2005 - 10:31 AM
- Wealth has no permanence: it comes in the morning,
and at night it is scattered to the winds.
Physical beauty too has no importance,
for a rosy face is made pale by the scratch of a single thorn.
Noble birth also is of small account,
for many become fools of money and horses.
Many a nobleman's son has disgraced his father by his wicked deeds.
Don't court a person full of talent either,
even if he seems exquisite in that respect:
take warning from the example of Iblis (Devil).
Iblis had knowledge, but since his love was not pure,
he saw in Adam nothing but a figure of clay.
(Mathnawi VI: 255-260)
(Version by Camille and Kabir Helminski, "Rumi: Jewels of Remembrance", Threshold Books, 1996)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 04 March 2005 - 10:36 AM
Mowlana Vector, on Mar 4 2005, 11:31 AM, said:
- Wealth has no permanence: it comes in the morning,
and at night it is scattered to the winds.
Physical beauty too has no importance,
for a rosy face is made pale by the scratch of a single thorn.
Noble birth also is of small account,
for many become fools of money and horses.
Many a nobleman's son has disgraced his father by his wicked deeds.
Don't court a person full of talent either,
even if he seems exquisite in that respect:
take warning from the example of Iblis (Devil).
Iblis had knowledge, but since his love was not pure,
he saw in Adam nothing but a figure of clay.
(Mathnawi VI: 255-260)
(Version by Camille and Kabir Helminski, "Rumi: Jewels of Remembrance", Threshold Books, 1996)
Camille and Kabir Helminski..
interesting ??
This post has been edited by Warriorette: 04 March 2005 - 10:37 AM
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Posted 04 March 2005 - 11:34 PM
Assalamu Alaikum
i was reading one of my books for school when suddenly it had a qoute from Rumi (Rha) in it , the quote is as follows : let the beauty we love be what we do. im still trying to make out what it means , any takers?
i was reading one of my books for school when suddenly it had a qoute from Rumi (Rha) in it , the quote is as follows : let the beauty we love be what we do. im still trying to make out what it means , any takers?
And We have not sent You except as a mercy to all the worlds ( Al Quran - 21:107)
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Posted 05 March 2005 - 02:16 AM
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DerVishYuNus, on Mar 5 2005, 12:34 AM, said:
Assalamu Alaikum
i was reading one of my books for school when suddenly it had a qoute from Rumi (Rha) in it , the quote is as follows : let the beauty we love be what we do. im still trying to make out what it means , any takers?
i was reading one of my books for school when suddenly it had a qoute from Rumi (Rha) in it , the quote is as follows : let the beauty we love be what we do. im still trying to make out what it means , any takers?
Bro, I think that Rumi quote is a line from the following poem
Spring Giddiness
Today, like every other day, we wake up empty
and frightened. Don't open the door to the study
and begin reading. Take down a musical instrument.
Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground.
The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you.
Don't go back to sleep.
You must ask for what you really want.
Don't go back to sleep.
People are going back and forth across the doorsill
where the two worlds touch.
The door is round and open.
Don't go back to sleep.
I would love to kiss you.
The price of kissing is your life.
Now my loving is running toward my life shouting,
What a bargain, let's buy it.
Daylight, full of small dancing particles
and the one great turning, our souls
are dancing with you, without feet, they dance.
Can you see them when I whisper in your ear?
All day and night, music,
a quiet, bright
reed song. If it
fades, we fade.
(Rumi)
... and here is one related interpretation
W'salaam
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 08 March 2005 - 07:37 AM
The breezes at dawn have secrets to tell you.
Don’t go back to sleep!
You must ask for what you really want.
Don’t go back to sleep!
People are going back and forth
Across the doorsill where the two worlds touch;
The door is round and open.
Don’t go back to sleep!
-RUMI
Don’t go back to sleep!
You must ask for what you really want.
Don’t go back to sleep!
People are going back and forth
Across the doorsill where the two worlds touch;
The door is round and open.
Don’t go back to sleep!
-RUMI
This post has been edited by Warriorette: 08 March 2005 - 07:38 AM
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Posted 12 March 2005 - 03:36 PM
- "How could you reach the pearl by only looking at the sea? If you seek the pearl, be a diver: the diver needs several qualities: he must trust his rope and his life to the Friend's hand, he must stop breathing, and he must jump."
(Rumi, Fihi ma Fihi - 50 )
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 12 March 2005 - 06:41 PM
Mowlana Vector, on Mar 12 2005, 04:36 PM, said:
- "How could you reach the pearl by only looking at the sea? If you seek the pearl, be a diver: the diver needs several qualities: he must trust his rope and his life to the Friend's hand, he must stop breathing, and he must jump."
(Rumi, Fihi ma Fihi - 50 )
amazing
Ease and hardship are the feathers that give strength to the wings of your faith so that your heart and your innermost being can use them to fly to the door of your Lord, Almighty and Glorious is He.
-Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani
-Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani
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Posted 17 March 2005 - 02:48 PM
- "Even if you are without means continue your search; on the way to Him, what need is there of means?" (Rumi, M III, 1446)
Source: Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi, Muriel Maufroy, ( 1997)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 19 March 2005 - 11:27 AM
Ghazal by Rumi
when i die
when my coffin
is being taken out
you must never think
i am missing this world
don't shed any tears
don't lament or
feel sorry
i'm not falling
into a monster's abyss
when you see
my corpse is being carried
don't cry for my leaving
i'm not leaving
i'm arriving at eternal love
when you leave me
in the grave
don't say goodbye
remember a grave is
only a curtain
for the paradise behind
you'll only see me
descending into a grave
now watch me rise
how can there be an end
when the sun sets or
the moon goes down
it looks like the end
it seems like a sunset
but in reality it is a dawn
when the grave locks you up
that is when your soul is freed
have you ever seen
a seed fallen to earth
not rise with a new life
why should you doubt the rise
of a seed named human
have you ever seen
a bucket lowered into a well
coming back empty
why lament for a soul
when it can come back
like Joseph from the well
when for the last time
you close your mouth
your words and soul
will belong to the world of
no place no time
when i die
when my coffin
is being taken out
you must never think
i am missing this world
don't shed any tears
don't lament or
feel sorry
i'm not falling
into a monster's abyss
when you see
my corpse is being carried
don't cry for my leaving
i'm not leaving
i'm arriving at eternal love
when you leave me
in the grave
don't say goodbye
remember a grave is
only a curtain
for the paradise behind
you'll only see me
descending into a grave
now watch me rise
how can there be an end
when the sun sets or
the moon goes down
it looks like the end
it seems like a sunset
but in reality it is a dawn
when the grave locks you up
that is when your soul is freed
have you ever seen
a seed fallen to earth
not rise with a new life
why should you doubt the rise
of a seed named human
have you ever seen
a bucket lowered into a well
coming back empty
why lament for a soul
when it can come back
like Joseph from the well
when for the last time
you close your mouth
your words and soul
will belong to the world of
no place no time
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Posted 26 March 2005 - 03:14 PM
- "My existence is from you and your appearance is through Me. Yet if I had not appeared, you would not have been." (Muhiy-din Ibn 'Arabi)
Source: Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi (Muriel Maufroy, 1997)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 26 March 2005 - 03:17 PM
- "I was a tiny bug. Now a mountain. I was left behind. Now honored at the head. You healed my wounded hunger and anger, and made me a poet who sings about joy."
RUMI in Breathing Truth Quotations from Jalaluddin Rumi (Muriel Maufroy, 1997)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 26 March 2005 - 03:35 PM
- "The pleasures of this world are delightful from a distance before the actual test.
From a distance they appear to be refreshing water, but when you approach them, you find they are a mirage.
The world’s bait is visible, but the trap is hidden: at first sight, the world’s favors seem sweet." (Mathnawi, VI, 316-317; 321)
Source: Rumi's "Jewels of Remembrance" (selected and translated by Camille and Kabir Helminski, 1996)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 31 March 2005 - 07:38 PM
- I was in the garden in the morning and I was gathering roses
And all the time I was afraid that the gardener would see me.
The gardener, however, only spoke these kind words:
‘A few roses are nothing as I give you the complete garden’.
Rumi (# 1218, The Divan)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 04 April 2005 - 01:38 PM
"Your thinking is like a camel driver and you are the camel: it drives you in every direction under its bitter control." (Rumi)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 09:34 PM
- "What do empty people find attractive? Empty lies.
What do stupid people find attractive? Stupid ideas.
Each finds its own kind attractive. No cow ever felt attracted towards a lion." (Mulana Jalaluddin Rumi in Masnavi II, 2055-6)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 07:23 PM
Rumi says:
We cannot deny that God is responsible for evil just as he is responsible for good.
Yet this does not diminish His generosity.
His bestowing of evil is part of His perfection.
Here is an example:
A painter creates two kinds of picture, beautiful and ugly. He can portray beautiful young maidens; and equally portray nasty criminals. Both kinds of picture display his mastery.
The ugly pictures do not reflect his ugliness, but rather his creativity. In his creative genuis he can reveal the full horror of ugliness and thus reveal the perfection of his artistry.
If he were not able to paint ugly pictures, he would be imperfect,
That is why God has created both selfish unbelievers
and honest believers.
In this respect both faith and
unbelief bear witness to Him;
both through their behaviour
pay homage to His power.
The difference is that
the unbeliever does not recognise this and persues
other aims; while the believer rejoices in serving God.
" (- II 2535-45)
There is no absolute evil in the world since evil is
relative.. one person's food is another person's poison. For
the snake, poison is life, for humans it is death.
The fish needs water to breathe, while humans drown
in it."
( IV 65)
We cannot deny that God is responsible for evil just as he is responsible for good.
Yet this does not diminish His generosity.
His bestowing of evil is part of His perfection.
Here is an example:
A painter creates two kinds of picture, beautiful and ugly. He can portray beautiful young maidens; and equally portray nasty criminals. Both kinds of picture display his mastery.
The ugly pictures do not reflect his ugliness, but rather his creativity. In his creative genuis he can reveal the full horror of ugliness and thus reveal the perfection of his artistry.
If he were not able to paint ugly pictures, he would be imperfect,
That is why God has created both selfish unbelievers
and honest believers.
In this respect both faith and
unbelief bear witness to Him;
both through their behaviour
pay homage to His power.
The difference is that
the unbeliever does not recognise this and persues
other aims; while the believer rejoices in serving God.
" (- II 2535-45)
There is no absolute evil in the world since evil is
relative.. one person's food is another person's poison. For
the snake, poison is life, for humans it is death.
The fish needs water to breathe, while humans drown
in it."
( IV 65)
This post has been edited by Warriorette: 06 April 2005 - 07:23 PM
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Posted 07 April 2005 - 04:08 PM
- "Do not seek trouble and turmoil and bloodshed: say no more concerning the Sun of Tabriz! This [mystery] hath no end: tell of the beginning. Go, relate the conclusion of this tale." (Rumi)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 12:36 AM
- "So delicate yesterday, the nightsinging birds by the creek.
Their words were: You may make a jewellery flower out of gold and rubies and emeralds, but it will have not fragrance."
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 02:14 AM
- "If you do not possess the staff of caution and discrimination, use the eyes of him who sees. If there is no staff of caution and discrimination, do not wander on the road without a guide." (Rumi)
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 12:29 AM
"Leave all worries behind and maek your heart totally pure, like the face of a mirror with no image or design. Once your heart is cleansed of all images, it will contain them all"
"So lose not heart, nor fall into despair: for you must gain mastery if U are true in faith." (The Holy Qur'an - 3:139)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)
"Sufficient is death as a counsel." (Saydinah Umar RA)