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HOWARD 3 MORE YEARS!




I hate this1 this is BAD!1 VERY BAD1!

[islaam_is_a_way_of_life]

Tell me about it!!

[Sam]

What can you say... obviously for a large proportion of Australians, being deceived to, ignoring international law and throwing justice out the window is nothing compared to a few extra bucks in the back pocket. Just goes to show how cheaply some people can be bought out.

[Tazzie]

not Howard again..... even the aussies on the streets are complaining..

[zamzam]

Good luck to medicare and education..and there will be another 3 years of lies and deceptions to look forward too..

ohh yea..and of course Peter Costello

[Sam]

Zainab, on Oct 9 2004, 08:37 PM, said:

  not Howard again..... even the aussies on the streets are complaining..         

Obviously not enough complained, although Labor's vote really went down the toilet. Greens seem to pick up well. If you look at the swing towards Liberal nationally (~ 3% ), it roughly equals the swing against One Nation party (also ~ 3% ) - coincidence?

It will be interesting to see the Senate results. God help us if we end up with a Liberal control there also.

[gn]

Oh Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


A very sad indictment on the average Australian..... too stupid to realise they are being lied to constantly, or just dont care.

Here is something to amuse you while you think of 3 more years under Howard

http://www.andrewwil...landinggame.php

This post has been edited by gn: 09 October 2004 - 09:28 PM

[Astral]

Salamz,

Yeah looks like Australians are more concerned with interest rates than human rights issues. Did anyone see the part where that blonde lady on ch 9 said "I hope that, in the next elections Howard will consider human rights issues as well as the economy..." or something like that (it was better than i can remember).

I'm not too surprised that Liberals have won this election,but i'm surprised that they actually got more seats this time round than last.

oh well, at least my district (calwell) voted ALP heheheh... (as usual).

oh and by the way -- guess what? i got spammed by @vic.liberals.org.au haha... somebody from there tried to send me a virus today.

[GreenOz]

this result simply sucks if i may say so

(does that need to be moderated?)

[Astral]

hey gn, did u vote for Family First? Their preference was Liberals....

[gnine]

Astral, on Oct 9 2004, 09:29 PM, said:

hey gn, did u vote for Family First? Their preference was Liberals....

For the life of me, I cannot understand how these christian political parties always preference the Liberals.

No, I didn't vote Family First in either the lower house or the senate. I made sure my lower house preferential vote went to labor.

[GreenOz]

what part of the Australian brain was either: oversized and diseased, or not used today?

[zamzam]

I thought Mark Lathams speach was quite good..i like his policies on education and medicare..too bad the rest of Australia couldnt see it..

[Seeker]

Australia should have eased the squeeze on Labour.

[Sakinah]

Liberals did what they know best, they ran a scare campaign to win. All the talk about interest rates increasing with Latham freaked people out and they care more about their back pockets so it seems.

I thought Latham did very well regardless and ran an honest campaign.

3 more years of Howard, that really sucks.

This post has been edited by Sakinah: 09 October 2004 - 10:25 PM

[Moby]

unless.. some mysterious person hits him with a stick which disable's him to run as PM...

[GreenOz]

tell me it's a bad dream!

[DesertRose`]

shhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmeeeeeeeee!

[GreenOz]

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i am trying to scare myself as the reality of the result is a whole lot scarier!

[Wolf]

All you who voted Green got exactly what you voted for...

[DesertRose`]

his speech was a load of crap too! (well thats no surprise really) Same thing over and over...urgh can't believe it...

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[GreenOz]

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All you who voted Green got exactly what you voted for...

really? the Incredible Hulk got in?

(sorry, bad joke. trying to make fun of such a tragic situation as we have another 3 years with Dajjal Down Under )

[Sakinah]

HananD, you might have some new clients that are depressed as a result of Howards win

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[Sam]

Wolf, on Oct 9 2004, 11:04 PM, said:

All you who voted Green got exactly what you voted for...

How so bro? Green preferences went to Labor.

[Wolf]

Seriously, if you wanted to get rid of Howard then the only way to vote would have been labour but subhanallah our political 'experts' chose to go the green vote....well it worked. The Green vote went up, the labour vote went down and Johnny went to the lodge!

[GreenOz]

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HananD, you might have some new clients that are depressed as a result of Howards win

my first concern before anyone is Mamdouh Habib abd David Hicks. As for depressed people, the real people who need psycho-brain therapy is the Australian public who forgot justice and humanity and voted to defend unrealistic fear of insecurity and a G.W Bush [MOD: mod the mod].

1st brain-surgery re-adjustment client is needed intensively at the lodge:

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the labour vote went down and Johnny went to the lodge!     

how tragic really as the result still smells bad.

[Sakinah]

i just hope and pray that George Bush does not win the american election. That will be another tragedy.

[Sam]

Wolf, on Oct 9 2004, 11:11 PM, said:

Seriously, if you wanted to get rid of Howard then the only way to vote would have been labour but subhanallah our political 'experts' chose to go the green vote....well it worked.  The Green vote went up, the labour vote went down and Johnny went to the lodge!  

I don't see how you can come to this conclusion. Green preferences went to Labor, and in most cases the swing to Greens was greater than the swing away from Labor. If not for the Greens, the labor vote may have been even worse (if it could get any worse).

On another note, it seems the Senate has just become a rubber stamp for the Government as well, with the opposition and minor parties not having the numbers to block any legislation. Kiss goodbye Telstra, Unfair Dismissal laws and hello more draconian ASIO laws...

[Wolf]

No bro it doesn't automatically follow...the preference deal between the greens and labour was in only 33 seats across the country...you also have to take into account the fact that many people in our community may not have filled the sheets in correctly and a number of other issues.

The simple fact is that the Greens were never going to remove howard...if you want to remove him then the votes should have gone to labour.

As for the 'protest' vote....our gesture just got lost in the wash.

Wasalam
Wolf

[Sam]

Wolf, on Oct 9 2004, 11:34 PM, said:

No bro it doesn't automatically follow...the preference deal between the greens and labour was in only 33 seats across the country...

I think there were many other greater factors, eg Libs increased primary vote, loss of seats in Tasmania and Victoria, etc.. I havent heard any of the commentators blame labor's loss on the increased green vote. I know when I voted Greens, I first made sure that their preferences went to Labor. Not that it would make any difference, since my seat is one of the safest Labor seats around. But check out the Green vote, compared to the Libs. I'd say thats pretty damn close to the Libs primary count.

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you also have to take into account the fact that many people in our community may not have filled the sheets in correctly and a number of other issues.

There are also a large proportion that think it's Haram to vote. You needn't worry about them voting Green, Labor or anyone else.

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The simple fact is that the Greens were never going to remove howard...if you want to remove him then the votes should have gone to labour. 

As for the 'protest' vote....our gesture just got lost in the wash.

I don't think anyone ever expected Greens on their own would remove howard outright - I think you're not giving Muslim voters enough credit. They are just as capable of making informed voting decisions as any other Australian.

The fact is, for the majority of cases, whether we voted Greens or Labor, the result would have been exactly the same. In the majority of seats, the Libs primary vote increased - voting Labor, Greens or any other party wont change that fact. That's why we have John "not-in-the-loop" Howard back in power.

salaams
sam