[WarriorEtte]

Your love has made me drunk, my hands are trembling.
I am intoxicated. I don't know what I'm doing.

-Mawlana Jalaluddin Rumi

This post has been edited by Warriorette: 22 June 2005 - 03:15 PM

[Moby]

are u serious? u find that good?

[WarriorEtte]

Lol..

for a Poet from 1207 AD its rare you would read this unique style..

Maybe its my afghan blood ??

[Moby]

Love intoxicates him? Nah, im just a love cynic. Its a good poem.

[WarriorEtte]

I have a heart of cold stone when it comes to love

lol

[Moby]

ROCK ON SISTER

[WarriorEtte]

[PrInCeSs]

salams


The loneliness of nights alone
The search for strength to carry on
My every hope has seemed to die
My eyes had no more tears to cry
Then like the sun shine from up above
You surrounded me with your endless love
And all the things I couldn't see
Are now so clear to me
You are my everything
Nothing your love won't bring
My life is yours alone
The only love I've ever known
Your spirit pulls me through
When nothing else will do
Every night i pray that you will always be
My everything

[Moby]

98 Degrees?

[Moby]

Excuse me while i puke now.

[SuMrU]

i've read a few of Mevlana's poems - but the ones i have had home are in turkish - really old turkish which is difficult to understand But then again if its translated in2 english it loses its meaning - am i right afghan sister?

However - He is referring to the love of Allah am i right?

Its difficult to understand some of the old turkish language - sometimes it sounds he's referring to a person who he loves - but im sure he's referring to the love he has for Allah.



take care

By the way - afghan sis - have u been to Mevlana in turkey? There's a place called Mevlana in turkey where they keep his belongings and everyhting. I forgot what its called in english.

anyways take care for now

[WarriorEtte]

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i've read a few of Mevlana's poems - but the ones i have had home are in turkish - really old turkish which is difficult to understand  But then again if its translated in2 english it loses its meaning - am i right afghan sister?

Yah totally agree..

However i read alot of his works in Farsi (Persian) and Unfortunalty yes it does sometimes loose its meaning..

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By the way - afghan sis - have u been to Mevlana in turkey? There's a place called Mevlana in turkey where they keep his belongings and everyhting. I forgot what its called in english.

Ive never left the australian continent

Lol...

anyways..

for more poetry on rumi try:

www.rumionfire.com
www.khamush.com


Salamz

[bobali]

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Ive never left the australian continent

stuck at villawood?

[OMJ]

bobali, on Sep 9 2004, 08:15 PM, said:

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Ive never left the australian continent

stuck at villawood?

LOL @ stuck @ villawood?



FACE THE FACTS: Australia's highest-ranking honest family man's LOVE & AFFECTION 4 U ...

More 'love' letters, Johny-style @ Here, Here , and Here

This post has been edited by OziMedia-Junkie: 10 September 2004 - 07:56 PM

[WarriorEtte]

WUTEVA DUDE

[PrInCeSs]

Moby, on Sep 4 2004, 09:36 PM, said:

98 Degrees?

lolllll yeh yeh it iss i luv it

[bobali]

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Your love has made me drunk, my hands are trembling.I am intoxicated. I don't know what I'm doing

[WarriorEtte]

wot u smirking at Bobby boy...

Ur farsi is good, Ill send you the original text and u can translate it...


Lolzz


Joking bro..

Salamz

[Mowlana Vector]

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...
Ur farsi is good, Ill send you the original text and u can translate it...


Speaking of Farsi, here is one from the ever-cool Mowlana

The Original in Dari (Persian)


"The Prophet said that women totally dominate men of intellect and possessors of hearts,
But ignorant men dominate women, for they are shackled by the ferocity of animals."

( RUMI in Masnavi I:2434-2435 )

[WarriorEtte]

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"The Prophet said that women totally dominate men of intellect and possessors of hearts,
But ignorant men dominate women, for they are shackled by the ferocity of animals."

Very Nice Indeed

Salamz

[WarriorEtte]

goft payghambar keh zan bar ‘âqelân
ghâleb âyad sakht o bar sâheb-delân
bâz bar zan jâhelân ghâleb shavand
k-andar ishân tondi-ye hayvânast band


For all u Farsi Zabanah

[SuMrU]

yes darqawi - in konya - has anyone been to mevlana? - i've been there - just wanted to share with all of u - that its really beautiful

take care for now

[BilalB]

i've been to many places in turkey i was young i'll ask my dad if we've been to Mevlana

[SuMrU]

are u turkish bro bilal? and if u haent been u shalllllllllllllllllll go one day very soon ! and all of u who havent been - u shud go when u get a chance one day especially if u love Mevlana

[BilalB]

sorry i forgot about this forum, i am lebanese but my grandma is from turkish cyprus and my dad had cousins in cyprus we used to go visit every year, my dad speaks turkish, i'd like to go back there one day inshallah.

[bobali]

my farsi/dari aint that bad...lol

sum words aint good enough for public audiences
considering my background, im doing well.

ill stick to pasthoon. lolz

[WarriorEtte]

bobali, on Oct 9 2004, 12:22 AM, said:

my farsi/dari aint that bad...lol

sum words aint good enough for public audiences
considering my background, im doing well.

ill stick to pasthoon. lolz

lol...Bro i think u should stick to dari..

I havent heard ur pastu, but like u said considering ur back ground..
Pashtu is very hard

[Mowlana Vector]

Okay, back to Mowlana ...
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The Healing Balm of a Poet's Words
By: David Briggs (15 October 2004)

Come, come, whoever you are. Wonderer, worshipper, lover of leaving. It doesn't matter. Ours is not a creation of despair. Come, even if you have broken your vow a thousand times. Come, yet again, come, come. - Rumi

What the American Islamic world needs now is love, sweet, love; fortunately, it's the only thing one of this country's most popular poets has just too much of.

So what if Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi died more than 700 years ago.

The Sufi saint celebrated for his message of universal love and tolerance is enjoying a spiritual and cultural renaissance as a welcome symbol of a faith beleaguered by associations with terrorism.

Rumi, a 13th-century poet and philosopher, is hot. Madonna and Demi Moore performed Rumi's work on a CD produced by New Age guru Deepak Chopra, and his poetry has been set to music in New York fashion shows.

There are annual Rumi Festivals in Chapel Hill, N.C., organizations such as the Rumi Art Society in Austin, Texas, the Rumi Forum for Interfaith Dialogue in Washington and Rumi reading groups in homes and college campuses nationwide.

In Northeast Ohio, a group of Muslims this year established the Rumi Foundation to promote interfaith dialogue and understanding. Last month, the foundation sponsored a performance at Severance Hall of a Sufi spiritual ceremony by the Whirling Dervishes of Rumi. In November, the group is having an interfaith Ramadan dinner at the City Club and inviting area religious leaders to a dialogue on love and religious pluralism.

The timing - getting the group off the ground as Muslims worldwide celebrate the holy month of Ramadan - could not be more appropriate, particularly at a time when Islam is often misrepresented as endorsing terrorism, say the group's founders.

"Dialogue and tolerance is the core part of Islam," said Huseyin A. Kara, director of the Mentor-based Rumi Foundation. "We are trying to bring Rumi's philosophy - love, tolerance, mutual understanding, mutual respect - to today's world."

Rumi was born in 1207 in what is now Afghanistan. His family fled a Mongol invasion, and Rumi, a devout Muslim, grew up in Konya, Turkey. Rumi's spiritual journey to achieve mystical union with God also led him to a profound respect for people of all faiths.

"Come, come, whoever you are," Rumi says in his poetry.

A theme of his work encourages readers to transcend division, and realize "that each thing in the universe is a vessel full to the brim with wisdom and beauty."

Muslims, Christians, Jews and Hindus were said to have attended his funeral when he died at age 66 in 1273.

Within Islam, the Sufi tradition is a minority. There are no Sufi mosques here, and there is concern that some practices such as whirling dance and chanting are outside traditional Islam as found in the Quran and the Hadith, religious teachings based on the life of the Prophet.

But Sufism is becoming increasingly popular, particularly among Western converts and so-called progressive Muslims seeking what they see as a less legalistic alternative form of worship.

And, in large part because of the influence of Rumi, spiritual seekers of all faiths have been opening themselves to a new appreciation of Islam through the writings of a poet who speaks passionately of divine and human love.

Zeki Saritoprak, a professor of religious studies at John Carroll University and president of the Rumi Foundation, said the poet is attractive to Eastern and Western scholars and spiritual seekers because of the universality of his ideas "about spirituality and human needs for interaction with the divine."

Rumi speaks of a divine love so intense it "can burn you spiritually," Saritoprak said.

In just the last few years, with the aid of popular adaptations by poet Coleman Barks, more than half a million books of Rumi's poetry have been sold.

Not bad for an Islamic mystic in a nation struggling to separate religion and politics after terror attacks on American soil.

It is a popularity not lost on the Islamic community here.

As spiritual seekers of all faiths explore mystical truths with the help of Rumi, so are many Islamic leaders welcoming the attention to a beloved spiritual figure who for centuries has represented the religion as one of peace and universal brotherhood.

"People in the Muslim community have realized Rumi can provide a positive model for interfaith dialogue," said Marcia Hermansen, professor of Islamic Studies at Loyola University, Chicago.

Saritoprak, who helped found the Rumi Forum in Washington in 1998 while he was a researcher at Georgetown, said those who would politicize Islam and invoke the faith to justify acts of violence against innocents "have nothing to do with the teachings of Islam."

Rumi offers a powerful vision to counteract such false teachings, many Islamic scholars say.

Kara, director of the area foundation, said he wants his preschoolers to grow up in a Northeast Ohio where people of all faiths are appreciated, and where children can learn about Islam without being made to feel ashamed or afraid of their religion.

"Rumi, in his time, represented this idea in the best way," Kara said. "He spread his message of dialogue and love and tolerance in his time. This is what we are trying to do. These are the common values of humanity."

To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: dbriggs@plaind.com, 216-999-4812
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[Faithful2Allah]

i was watching 'a knights tale' the other night. Its a good movie btw. Anyway, they had this part where he was writting a letter to his loved one. And one part that i really liked was.

Not seeing u has broken my heart in pieces that would fit through the eye of a needle.

Something like that anyway. The rest of the letter was good too. So any brother that r having trouble writting poetry for their fiances/wives i suggest u rent the video