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A Note From Hizb Ut-tahrir Australia CONCERNING RECENT MEDIA ALLEGATIONS

#1 User is offline   Hamza 

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:18 AM

Salam all,

Please find below the media release that was issued today by Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


A NOTE FROM HIZB UT-TAHRIR AUSTRALIA CONCERNING RECENT MEDIA ALLEGATIONS



Sydney, Australia, 11th July 2007 – The current debate purporting to examine the question of Hizb ut-Tahrir has proven to be nothing more than a poorly scripted melodrama. After observing the pitiful displays of pseudo-intellectuals, the contemptible words of ignorant commentators and the empty posturing of political aspirants, Hizb ut- Tahrir Australia will now respond as a matter of historical record.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is a global Islamic political party working to re- establish the Islamic Caliphate within the Muslim world. Since its inception in 1953, Hizb ut-Tahrir has been subject to the severest of repression at the hands of the tyrants in the Muslim world. Our members have been consistently persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and even murdered. Despite operating under the most horrendous conditions, Hizb ut-Tahrir continues to resolutely oppose all forms of tyranny and dictatorship exclusively through intellectual and political means, and in fact considers the recourse to violence as a means to achieve its objectives a violation of Islamic law.

Hizb ut-Tahrir has been brutally opposed in the Muslim world because of its leadership in championing political change. Its courageous stance in mobilising public opinion in the Muslim world has earned the party the universal support of the Muslim masses and caused widespread consternation amongst its opponents. But the alarm of the regimes in the Muslim world is superseded only by the concern of Western
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Hizb ut-Tahrir is now being targeted in the West for three primary reasons:

1. the party continues to courageously expose the crimes of Western governments to a global audience;

2. the party unrelentingly challenges the West's neo-liberal interventionist policies in the Muslim world; and

3. the party works tirelessly to present Islam as an ideological alternative to Western secular capitalism as a model of governance in the Muslim world.

The current charges levelled at Hizb ut-Tahrir over the last week are certainly not worthy of a serious response. Rather than engaging in genuine ideological debate, critics of Hizb ut-Tahrir are desperately seeking to suppress such debate.

Media representative of Hizb ut- Tahrir Australia, Wassim Doureihi, comments in this regard:

“Our opposition to the illegal state of Israel, for instance, is howled as anti-semitism, our displeasure at the West's foreign policy labelled as subversion, our challenge to Western backed dictators characterised as rebellion, our work to generate political awareness described as radicalisation, and our call for the affairs of the Muslim world to be governed by Islam fought as extremism. Governments have even lent sympathetic ears to opportunistic individuals parroting the established government narrative by seeking to draw spurious and unfounded links between Hizb ut-Tahrir and the recent events in London and Glasgow”.

“Over the last century, Western governments have exercised a brutal and unashamedly interventionist policy in the Muslim world - a policy that has wreaked havoc upon the local population through ongoing military occupation, economic exploitation and political repression”.

”But despite the concerted effort to demonise and silence Hizb ut- Tahrir, we will continue in our efforts to engage in a serious and open debate concerning the way forward for the Muslim world”.

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For more information, please contact Wassim Doureihi, Media Representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, on email: media@risala.org or mobile: 0438 000 465.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:40 AM

JZK for putting this up bro - I WAS ABOUT TO, lol
anyways, masha allah
a great release, completely in contrast to the stupidity of the media. to the point, articulate, accurate.
Alhamdulillah :)

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Post icon  Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:44 AM

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Was this MR dispatched to any particular (mass)media outlet or to all accredited mass media organisations?
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 11:57 AM

W'salam,

All accredited media outlets.


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Posted 11 July 2007 - 12:42 PM

wouldn't actually refuting the points raised by that ex member have been better? since wassim couldn't go into allot of details in that interview, it would of seemed that this was the perfect opportunity.
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:51 PM

"points" imply some meaning, coherent argument being put forward by someone.
Im not sure one could equate ed husain's ramblings to "points"
However pepe if you do think there are credible points he made, insha Allah you can raise them if you want?

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:52 PM

Mowlana Vector, on Jul 11 2007, 11:44 AM, said:

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Bro MV - you work in the media dont you? For a media organisation? or is that info not for our ears?
(sorry, lol, not around enough to know if you are; apologies!)
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:23 PM

pepe, on Jul 11 2007, 12:42 PM, said:

wouldn't actually refuting the points raised by that ex member have been better? since wassim couldn't go into allot of details in that interview, it would of seemed that this was the perfect opportunity.
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Insha'Allah, this report will probably deal with the issues in detail.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 02:32 AM

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Hizb ut-Tahrir wants a Caliphate
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

By Wassim Doureihi
July 12, 2007 12:00am

THE debate over Hizb ut-Tahrir has proven to be nothing more than a poorly scripted melodrama.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is a global Islamic political party working to re-establish the Islamic Caliphate within the Muslim world.

Since its inception in 1953, Hizb ut-Tahrir has been subject to the severest of repression by tyrants in the Muslim world. Our members have been consistently persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and murdered.

Despite operating under the most horrendous conditions, Hizb ut-Tahrir continues to oppose all forms of tyranny and dictatorship exclusively through intellectual and political means and in fact considers violence a violation of Islamic law.

Hizb ut-Tahrir's courageous stance in mobilising public opinion in the Muslim world has earned it the universal support of Muslim masses and caused widespread consternation among its opponents.

Hizb ut-Tahrir is now being targeted in the West for three primary reasons: The party continues to courageously expose the crimes of Western governments to a global audience; it unrelentingly challenges the West's neo-liberal interventionist policies in the Muslim world and it works to present Islam as an ideological alternative to Western secular capitalism as a model of governance in the Muslim world.

Critics of Hizb ut-Tahrir are desperately seeking to suppress debate. Our opposition to the illegal state of Israel, for instance, is howled down as anti-Semitism, our displeasure at the West's foreign policy labelled subversion, our challenge to Western-backed dictators characterised as rebellion, our work to generate political awareness described as radicalisation and our call for the affairs of the Muslim world to be governed by Islam branded as extremism.

Governments have even lent sympathetic ears to opportunistic individuals parroting the established government narrative by seeking to draw spurious and unfounded links between Hizb ut-Tahrir and recent events in London and Glasgow.

In the last century, Western governments conducted a brutal and unashamedly interventionist policy in the Muslim world which wreaked havoc on local populations through military occupation, economic exploitation and political repression.

But despite the concerted effort to demonise and silence Hizb ut-Tahrir, we will continue a serious and open debate on the way forward for the Muslim world.

* Wassim Doureihi is the media representative of Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia


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Posted 12 July 2007 - 05:41 AM

What does this have to do with 'Islam in the News'?
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:39 AM

What a first!!! The more dialogue and discussion regarding Islam and politics the better. Let the Australian public hear for themselves what HT's aims and ambitions are. The Ummah's sentiments and views regarding the vehicle for Islam to be brought back to to life ie the Khilafah is the heart of Islamic news. The heart beat of the Ummah is pacing OMG can't you feel it?

Watch this to understand why.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=_k2aX-9j6H8
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:42 AM

Anas, on Jul 12 2007, 02:32 AM, said:



Just for the record, this article is an edited version of the HT press release issued yesterday 11/07/07. It was included in Daily Telegraph (DT) as an opinion piece (with DT editing) without the prior permission of Wassim Doureihi or representatives from HT.


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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:05 PM

OhMyGod!, on Jul 12 2007, 05:41 AM, said:

What does this have to do with 'Islam in the News'?
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Everything. The media currently has its spotlight on a group that seeks to establish Islam as a way of life. If that doesnt constitute islam being in the news, then what does it, sister?

Perhaps you should say what you really meant to say, and then we can discuss it :)

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:06 PM

maryamary, on Jul 12 2007, 09:39 AM, said:



BRILLIANT, MUST WATCH VIDEO


Makes you cry :(
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:16 PM

maryamary, on Jul 12 2007, 09:39 AM, said:

... The Ummah's sentiments and views regarding the vehicle for Islam to be brought back to to life ie the Khilafah is the heart of Islamic news. The heart beat of the Ummah is pacing OMG can't you feel it?


No, I disagree sis. My heartbeat is still pacing from the extra chilli hot burger I ate yesterday. That's about it.

Fazza, on Jul 12 2007, 04:05 PM, said:

Everything. The media currently has its spotlight on a group that seeks to establish Islam as a way of life. If that doesnt constitute islam being in the news, then what does it, sister?

Perhaps you should say what you really meant to say, and then we can discuss it :)

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Establish Islam as a way of life? This is about a small group of people that constitute a fringe political party. This isn't about Islam. Stop trying to make it out to be so. I know you guys love doing that in order to establish some credibility within the Ummah. It is the same tactic bin Liner and his clan use - it is always about Islam ;)
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:20 PM

OMG, that's what Ive been missing. Keep bringing it sis ;) :star:
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 06:39 PM

Yes, you have been missing those burgers at Oportos :P Yummmmmmmm - with extra mayo :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:11 PM

OhMyGod!, on Jul 12 2007, 06:16 PM, said:

Establish Islam as a way of life? This is about a small group of people that constitute a fringe political party. This isn't about Islam. Stop trying to make it out to be so. I know you guys love doing that in order to establish some credibility within the Ummah. It is the same tactic bin Liner and his clan use - it is always about Islam ;)
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You'll need to expand upon this OMG in order to back up your claims. Sweeping generalizations and off the cuff remarks don't support your accusations. How is HT not Islamic and in what way is HT using the same tactic as bin Liner?? :blink:
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:29 PM

maryamary relax sis

lets setup the Islamic State in silence ;)
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:29 PM

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The media currently has its spotlight on a group that seeks to establish Islam as a way of life.


And what has the rest of the ummah done for the last 1428 years? Its really very unfair to discredit the rest of the ummah in this manner!

You probably didnt imply that Islam isnt chosen as a way of life for us by Allah and established by the prophet :saws: himself but seriously sister, I cant give the same benefit of doubt in regards to the rest of the ummah.

Its this pretentiousness of HT towards the rest of the ummah that is one of the problems with its methodology, amongst others. I dont see it as a personal slip of words from you, but rather a collective HT mindset.

EDIT- By "rest of the ummah" I mean the ummah in current and previous times including common people as well as great scholars and mashayekh and awliyaa who have aided in the further enhancement of the Islamic civilization and way of life as was established by the blessed prophet :saws: The above comment is ludicrous and not just a comment, its a mindset and a mentality and thats a big botheration about HT, to me at least!

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:34 PM

TAS, I'm leaving this argument up to you. I can't be bothered with these guys. They go round and round and round in circles. Makes me dizzy. It's such a shame that such a small group of propagandists are so loud and cause unwanted attention for the peaceful Muslim communities around the globe, especially those living in Western countries.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:42 PM

OhMyGod!, on Jul 12 2007, 08:34 PM, said:

TAS, I'm leaving this argument up to you. I can't be bothered with these guys. They go round and round and round in circles. Makes me dizzy. It's such a shame that such a small group of propagandists are so loud and cause unwanted attention for the peaceful Muslim communities around the globe, especially those living in Western countries.
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Its also then best for you as a Muslim sister to leave the negative, baseless remarks for a more suitable and appropriate place and time.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:45 PM

OhMyGod!, on Jul 12 2007, 08:34 PM, said:

TAS, I'm leaving this argument up to you. I can't be bothered with these guys. They go round and round and round in circles. Makes me dizzy. It's such a shame that such a small group of propagandists are so loud and cause unwanted attention for the peaceful Muslim communities around the globe, especially those living in Western countries.
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what? ... :huh: I was just on my way out myself! Ive got other projects to complete... MV is supposed to be my brains off time :cry: , as HD says it
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:53 PM

maryamary, on Jul 12 2007, 08:42 PM, said:

Its also then best for you as a Muslim sister to leave the negative, baseless remarks for a more suitable and appropriate place and time.
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ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! And this is coming out of YOU, of all people. Give it a break :lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks for reminding me why you should be back on my ignore list.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:54 PM

TAS``, on Jul 12 2007, 08:45 PM, said:

what? ... :huh:  I was just on my way out myself! Ive got other projects to complete... MV is supposed to be my brains off time :cry: , as HD says it
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You're right. Just ignore these guys. They are trouble. Don't give yourself a headache bro ;)
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:58 PM

Scary Stuff!!! :egads:

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:02 PM

OhMyGod!, on Jul 12 2007, 06:16 PM, said:

Establish Islam as a way of life? This is about a small group of people that constitute a fringe political party. This isn't about Islam. Stop trying to make it out to be so. I know you guys love doing that in order to establish some credibility within the Ummah. It is the same tactic bin Liner and his clan use - it is always about Islam ;)
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Establish Islam as a way of life? Why does that come as a surprise to you sis? don't you agree?

Is Islam not a deen? Do you reject the social system, economic system, judicial system that is part of this deen? Will you discredit the scholars of the past who spoke of Islam as a way of life? The likes of Imam an Nawawi(may Allah have mercy on him) who said, "(The scholars) consented that it is an obligation upon the Muslims to select a Khaleefah". (Sharhu Sahih Muslim page 205 vol 12)
Imam al-Qurturbi (may Allah have mercy on him) who said, "The Khilafah is the pillar upon which other pillars rest".

You don't have to be a supporter of some "fringe political party" to recognize Islam is a complete way of life. Why do you defer sis?

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No, I disagree sis. My heartbeat is still pacing from the extra chilli hot burger I ate yesterday. That's about it.



:lol: i like my chilli burgers too. But my heart isn't reserved for them. :wacko:
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:16 PM

TAS``, on Jul 12 2007, 08:29 PM, said:

And what has the rest of the ummah done for the last 1428 years? Its really very unfair to discredit the rest of the ummah in this manner! You probably didnt imply that Islam isnt chosen as a way of life for us by Allah and established by the prophet :saws: himself but seriously sister, I cant give the same benefit of doubt in regards to the rest of the ummah.


This isn't intended to discredit the Ummah nor for the period that you mention. It should read re-establish Islam as a comprehensive system that ceased to exist officially from 1924 onwards when the KHilafah was destroyed.

Islam prior to this period was established on most if not all levels but after this period Islam was limited to specific areas of life in particular the individual level.


Is this enough for us to live by? Are we content with limiting Islam to individuals acts of worship?

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:20 PM

Anika, on Jul 12 2007, 09:02 PM, said:

Do you reject the social system, economic system, judicial system that is part of this deen?
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Prove that these systems exist. I agree that are principles but you need to demonstrate that Allah explicitly legislated entire systems.
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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:21 PM

Relax sis OhMyGod! :D

If you don't like it... let it come through one ear and out the other. :) Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
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